First Opera 11.60 Build Goes Live
Instead of assigning all the resources to continue the Opera 12 development, it looks like Norwegian browser maker has decided to take a different route and will be releasing Opera 11.60 (codenamed “Tunny” (meaning Tuna)), before that.
While it might sound like a bad thing for those who are eager to play with the final version of Opera 12, it won’t be much of a wait. According to the official blog post, Opera 11.60 Final will be released “very soon”.
As both versions are developed side by side, Opera 11.60 is set to include some of the Opera 12 features, including:
– A new version of JavaScript engine (codenamed “Carakan”), which should improve memory management
– A new HTML5 parser (you read more about it here)
– Opera 12 address bar, with search suggestions and bookmark star menu
– New web standards support
On a downside, Opera 11.60 will not include hardware acceleration nor new skins support.
In case you want to download it now, be sure to check a list of know issues as it’s still development.
For more details, see the original post.
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sounds fishy
Smells fishy too… Very raw… Crashes every 2 seconds…
Is it a clean install, or you upgraded one of your previous versions? For me it is pretty stable, and certainly faster than 11.52.
I should probably try a clean install. I actually upgraded 11.52. Maybe that’s what’s causing problems. Anyway, 12.00 alpha 1116 works flawlessly.
Unfortunately upgrading is not Opera’s strongest point. Especially in a snapshot.
I suggest you to try a portable install first. It doesn’t worth the hassle to make a clean install, if portable version is also buggy.
Yes, that was it. There are no problems with a portable install so far. Was using it for a half an hour – not a single crash. Although the previous install (11.52 upgrade) started crashing from the very first minute.
Upgrading to any software to alpha/beta version is plain stupid
Wouldn’t agree with that. Continuously upgrading v.12 (Opera), no problems or crashes.
That is what “Next” is for. If Opera cannot upgrade without problems; then that is stupid
wow, if you ask me, opera doesnt really have many strong points, besides loading fast and loading pages relatively fast
still cant display many webpages correctly, the process still remains after closing, thus causing errors and forcing the user to end the process manually and so on, and im talking about a fresh install, i dont remember using opera for more than a couple of days
Never had problems you mentioned. Like not displaying pages correctly or the process remaining. Windows 7 x64. But also I never had those issues even when I was using XP.
Anyway, what browser are you using as your default one? Just curious.
ive had problems with yahoo mail not displaying correctly on 2 computers
and im now using firefox, my second choice is chrome (if firefox, by some chance seizes to exist one day), then if chrome disappears (by that i mean the end of its development, same for firefox) i will then use opera, the reason why i use firefox is mostly functional – there are addons that are only firefox-specific and dont exist in the other browsers. ive gotten used to have them up my sleeve and when im using another browser, there is this subconscious feeling that something really important is missing
also firefox has the best adblock so far, followed by chrome and then opera – you just CANT make chrome or opera block ads in third party flash videos, check this page – watchop.com .. there are many ads and especially the ones on the bottom about games are only blocked by firefox
and so on, dont get me wrong, i wish opera or chrome could become even better than firefox, because im getting sick and tired of it so i can change, but at this point i still cant
I don’t have a Yahoo mail account, so I can’t really say anything concerning this point. And, yes, there are some Firefox-specific addons, so nothing can be said against it either. But a couple of words about third party flash videos (as ads) – Opera lets you load plugins “only by demand”, so when I go to the page of http://www.watchop.com I don’t see any “alive” ads at the bottom, those videos weren’t loaded (there are just two “dead” frames, if I can say so).
I mainly use Opera because everything is built-in – Speed Dial, Mail, RSS client, download manager, mouse gestures.
But sometimes (and pretty often, actually) I use Firefox too, though. I just love this Stylish addon with the help of which it’s easy to change the interface, and to make it look just awesome. Transparent or MacOS-like. ))
too much tinkering, i dont like that, i can do it, but its a waste of time when you are presented with an easier way of dealing with things like that, thats how i see things
Different strokes for different folks.
Yahoo mail does display correctly for me but I seldom go to the page as I forward all the mail to the Opera Mail client.
I’m using Ad block in Opera going to http://watchop.com/ I don’t see any advertisements.
I’m not seeing any annoying third party ads in flash videos either , probably only because I can’t find them post a link to one & I’ll check it out.
Are you talking about the Stable version of Opera or the snapshots that come with the big red warning.
” WARNING: This is a development snapshot: It contains the latest changes, but may also have severe known issues, including crashes, and data loss situations. In fact, it may not work at all. ”
There were a a couple of snapshots a while back that had the process remaining after closing Opera seems OK now.
So is this Opera Next 0.5?
Something like that… :)
However it will upgrade your current stable Opera by default, and not the Opera Next branch, so watch out for that. The latter is reserved for future 12 snapshots, which should be expected in parallel with 11.6 releases.
Not at all, it is stated very clearly it will upgrade your current stable, not next.
Good!!
At last Opera join HTML5 party! (Yes they where supporting it wholeheartedly all the time, but now we can enjoy it in Opera).
Nice to see Opera doing so well supporting standards again they had been falling behind.
http://html5test.com/results.html
A couple of months ago Opera were in last place in http://test262.ecmascript.org/# tests & now they lead.
Opera has been HTML5 compliant since 2010.
“Instead of assigning all the resources to continue the Opera 12 development, it looks like Norwegian browser maker has decided to take a different route”
Not really. They actually continue the Opera 12 development, as Opera 11.6 will be the current v12, except HW acceleration and WebGL (and the new “skin system”). Therefore this new 11.6 build is more advanced than the last 12 snapshot except HWA.
The purpose of the whole change is to release the new features faster (HTML parser, new Carakan with full ECMAScript 5.1 support, other HTML5 and CSS3 elements), instead of making them wait for HWA to be finished. So actually they don’t want to make the mistake Mozilla has done with FF4.
+ They want to focus only on HW acceleration. My expectation is to expand extension api because they haven’t added anything about extension api on Opera 12, yet.
Looks like this is not the case.
From Opera Employee
“F.Y.I. There will be no 12.00 builds this week as we want need more feedback on 11.60, following these changes. We expect to start offering 12.00 builds again next week.”
I saw that. How does it contradict to what I have written? I told, that Opera 11.6 will be released side by side (except this short period, for “as we want need more feedback on 11.60”) differing in HWA and the “new skin system” which is actually Personas a’la Opera.
You just have to read further in that topic:
“Ruarí Ødegaard(ruario) # 2011. november 7., hétfő 18:15:55Originally posted by exzentrik:So I guess we will see these changes in one of the next 12.00 builds, too.Originally posted by godjonez:After Ruarí’s message, when the next 12.00 build comes next week or so, will these changes for 11.60 be included?
yes”
(this “yes” was from Ruari, the very same person you have quoted)
“as Opera 11.6 will be the current v12”
Well, I didn’t really mean that. What I wanted to say, is that the first 11.60 build was based on the current 12 snapshot, without HWA and new skin. Of course – as we already see – new functions will also be implemented in 11.60 before it reaches its final form, but these changes will also be transferred to the paralleling 12 builds.
Speaking of “Fish” build in 11..
http://www.top10stop.com/world/fastest-fish-in-oceans-and-seas-top-10-fastest-swimmers
Opera really likes fishes
so this is right with their releases as Tunny(Tuna) being #4 and Wahoo(#3)
i cant wait for the day opera reaches “Sailfish” release
Opera could have a new JS engine even more faster than carakan
remember that carakan is 7x faster than futhark(old JS engine of opera)
“Opera could have a new JS engine even more faster than carakan”
It would make sense, as Carakan did not get significantly faster since its introduction, only model changes were introduced to lower memory consumption.
And let’s not forget the M2 (mail) UI changes that are currently in development. I wonder whether they make it to 11.6, or we should wait longer.
They are already in the 11.60 branch, so they will make it into 11.60 final. Futhermore, they are not even yet in the 12.00 branch, but are sure to be included as well.
What are they doing? Opera 11.60 ok fine who cares ..but no HWA? wow what a crappy browser .Opera you suck smh
Troll warning!
I was using Opera 12 snapshot with HWA and I was sold . Now they want to take it away to release ”11.60” Yeah..Great job Opera you lost me for good. Probably new spectacular ”speed dial” video coming soon so look out for that. Smh what a joke
They think HWA requires much more time to be polished. In the mean time they release 11.6 with other, more finished – and equally important – improvements, like the HTML5 parser, so that everybody can use them as soon as possible. However, you can still use the latest 12 Opera Next snapshots with HWA.
Opera 11.60 would be released before first week of December, that’s something I am sure of. Also Opera plans to ship Opera 12 builds and Opera 11.60 builds side-by-side.
My best guess for 11.6 release 25th November.
Opera 12 sometime in December probably 23rd December but might not have HWA or if it does might be turned off by default.
I’m most looking forward to having Opera Reader the examples I’ve seen are really cool , unfortunately there won’t be many web sites using until the other browsers implement it.
http://people.opera.com/cmills/orarticle/
I think 11.60 was a good move because HWA was so buggy on my system that I couldn’t use Opera Next (12 alpha).
They are releasing all the new stuff that is actually ready now instead of delaying everything until that one feature is ready. Should Opera delay the new HTML5 parser and JS5 support for an unknown amount of time until HWA is ready? Or should they ship with HWA even though it isn’t finished yet?
Your comment is weird indeed.
Youre a complete idiot.
Obviously the smarter amongst us have already worked out that Opera is actually faster in software than many browsers are using hardware acceleration.
If you try a Opera 12 build, it will crucify the other browsers. 11.60 is just about the same as them.
They’re only doing this as a stop gap. They don’t want people to wait ages for Opera 12 since HWA and the new themes support aren’t quite ready yet so I think it was a good idea to get the bits that are ready out quicker.
I don’t see why people are trolling them so much. I don’t get the crashes others are getting. :S
what do you mean by “new themes support” ive noticed that on windows 7 with aero, the context menus of opera look like classic windows, which i find really ugly and kind of turns me off even more from opera
does this mean, they will implement the aero context menu?
Unfortunately not. The context menu in Opera really needs some work. And no-one knows whether they will implement the aero context menu or not… To tell you the truth these “new themes” are not much to look at.
I’m not too sure about “New Theme” support either. I’m only saying what Opera’s said.
@Vygantas:disqus DUDE! You have a problem with the contact page so I’LL POST ‘ERE: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Android-Web-Browsers,review-1705.html
Are you sure? Checked and it works fine?
I just want Opera to introduce multiprocess browsing already.
Might help Opera release memory if they implemented it.
Opera is a multi-threaded application which helps with resources open a lot of tabs with Chrome & it starts to struggle.
No it won’t. Here is why?
Opera consumes the least amount of memory ACTUALLY. But you might have seen Opera’s memory usage to be more than almost all other browsers. This is not because Opera needs so much memory but due to A UNIQUE FEATURE OF OPERA. Opera stores each and every webpage in RAM until the tab is closed. So Suppose you were typing a huge comment but you accidentially clicked a link to another website. When using Opera, click the back button and what you typed will remain intact and you can continue typing – in other browsers you lose the whole comment unless you install Text back-up add-ons. Installing a Text saving/Text back-up tool will boost the memory usage of other browsers to the same level as Opera.
Firefox uses less memory than Opera but I was talking about releasing memory, Opera holds on to memory as if it was money all the other browsers are better than Opera releasing memory.
I can delete all my data ,cookies history everything & it still keeps most of it. The only way to clear memory is a restart. Its not a big problem for me as I have 6 GB memory & I know Opera runs well on low powered net books but it would be nice if deleting all your private data restored all your memory.
You have a thing or two to learn about memory handling strategies…
I open a lot of tabs in Chrome all the time without issues. I am a big fan of customization and should thus like Firefox and Opera, which I do, but they simply can’t handle my surfing anymore. Firefox freezes for a couple of seconds at a time.and Opera is just slow in terms of responsiveness.
I was reading the comments on the Opera desktop Blog today & one of the Devs replied to a query about MemGaurd & that it is now built into Opera.
“MemGuard is a full replacement for Opera.exe plus extra memory guarding features to complement Inspector IIXII. It ensures that any kind of bad memory access, e.g. dangling pointers or buffer overruns, will cause an immediate crash, instead of causing random crashers and thus useless crash logs potentially minutes later” . that quote is a couple of years old there was a download for Opera 9 on the page.
Might shed some light on Opera’s policy regarding crashes . Let it crash easy & recover quick to keep the browser responsive. Most of the crashes I have take about 3 seconds & I’m back browsing again with all the tabs & tab history.
Which hasnt really proved any advantage but well…
Multi process browsing is a folly. It’s inefficient to the extreme, there is lots of duplication in memory.
Better make a browser that doesn’t crash, rather than making a browser that crashes more gracefully.
I would not like Opera be a miser with memory if it impacted performance but what possible reason can there be for it to hold onto memory after you have closed all tabs & cleared the internet cache.
It’s the fastest browser because it’s good at using (and reusing) available resources.
Clearly you are from the farm that has multicore computers with loads of memory and would prefer to have everything running on 1 core and not using all that available memory.
Idiot.
Multi process or multi threaded does not bother me Opera is fast enough I’m merely saying that if you delete all private data including history , cookies & closing all tabs Opera should release all memory its using without having to close the browser.
It’s more likely a failure on your understanding on how Windows manages memory.
Does it release memory if you minimise and then restore the window?
On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 00:41:52 -0000, Disqus
Opera 11.6 opening 132 tabs memory used 2.006GB deleting all private data = 465 MB
minimizing & restoring Window no change.
Closing & restarting memory = 52 MB
Firefox 132 tabs = 1.080 GB closing tabs = 184 MB after 2 minutes
Clearing everything = 157MB
Restarting Firefox =53 MB
LOL 132 tabs. Get a life…
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Just ignore him, he is a well known hater.
I love Opera its a fantastic browser but its not perfect , Opera fanatics blindly defending Opera give Opera a bad name.
Makes me wonder if some of them are really Firefox or Chrome fanatics under the skin.
Well, I am a true Opera ‘fanatic’ , though I don’t think ‘fanatic’ is the right word used.
By the way, this post is too old. Opera 11.60 build 1139 released yesterday with a huge update for Opera Mail. And Opera 11.60 build 1144 released today with a short list of fixes.
And today build 1145 was also released, with a bit longer list of changes… :)
Tomorrow I expect an Opera 11.6 beta release.
Beta is out… Presto 2.10….
I think Winston Churchill defined fanatic best
“A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject.”
” Beta RC ” does that mean release Candidate for the Beta or Final ?
Leaving aside the fact that it is completely irrelevant, they just missed this and will surely address it before final, and really… who cares?