IE10, 9 vs. Firefox 5 vs. Google Chrome 13, 12 vs. Opera 11.50 vs. Safari 5
With the release of the Internet Explorer 10 Platform Preview 2, Microsoft has decided to post results of the JavaScript Standards Test, which scores are available below.
The following web browsers were tested:
Internet Explorer 10 (Platform Preview 2)
Internet Explorer 9
Firefox 5
Google Chrome 13 (13.0.782.41)
Google Chrome 12 (12.0.742.112)
Safari 5.0.5 (7533.21.1)
Opera 11.50
As you can see from the results, IE10 has scored 99%, followed by Firefox 5.0, IE9 and Google Chrome 13 Beta. Surprisingly or not, Opera 11.50 has scored only 65%, lowest of all the web browsers.
What is test262?
test262 is a test suite intended to check agreement between JavaScript implementations and the ECMA-262 Specification (currently 5th Edition). The test suite contains thousands of individual tests, each of which tests some specific requirements of the ECMAScript specification.
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Continuo preferindo o Chrome.
Opera got poor results in this test only because it has no support for JavaScript ‘strict’ mode – which is frankly used only in such tests as far as I know.
ie9 is so cool. but i perfer to use avant browser .faster、easy to use、use less memory
Ctrl + t … Opera beat all browsers in this test ……
Things are a little bit different from what Microsoft is saying… bit.ly/jRXy3T
How complete is the test suite? How many of the tests did Microsoft write?
(I know the answer, but I encourage people to investigate this, so they can see what a total sham this PR crap is).
Still makes no difference. Who’s going back to using Internet Explorer except for maybe Windows Updates? I like Microsoft (besides IE), but corporations producing their own research results is spurious.
http://sputnik.googlelabs.com/about
http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2011/07/01/test262
only this Blog Comment Manager (that will never post under his name outside his cave unless he has THE POWAH to delete comments, oh the mighty one) forgets few things:
– opera DOES suck at what is tested (strict mode to be precise) [he fails to mentions it]
– opera DOES suck in ES5 in general [he fails to mention it]
– MS team did submit some testcases, what opera did? moaned? whined? [he fails to mention it]
test is a test, it tests things that it tests – all other browsers somehow score quite similar (~90%), opera (AS ALWAYS) is completely different. so it is MS, mozilla, google’ fault that opera scores low?!? WTF you are smoking?
you have to be Blog Comment Manager to blame it on MS
if this is how opera as a company handles troubles (dismissing them on the spot and pointing fingers at others, never at themselves) then the falling market share, no market respect and uncertain future as a separate company is easily explainable.
opera’ low score in this test is OPERA OWN FAULT. and now get to work, your QA department has a lot to do, seeing how yet another xx.50 release is riddled with bugs.
Opera failed a test that nobody cares about.. Oh may :D It easy to see that MS produced various tests are only to show where IE shines. But in real world its just useless as “green” cars.
He’s a ginger. They have no souls
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/2011/06/27/brains-in-action
Kidding aside, he is always on the defensive. Is he employed in PR or something?
Havaard is one of the meanest people I know. Whenever I read his posts it makes me sick, wish I could fire him so he does not destory Opera image.
i’m more than sure than he is one of few trolls that opera ‘accidentaly’ allows on their own forums (and around there as well).
opera employee officially could not be seen saying such things, but ‘an internet troll’ is of course only anonymous troll.. .
funny, but certain expressions are rarely used but they are used by both Blog Comment Moderator (petty censor gives more justice) and some frequently encountered troll..
he does opera much more harm than he thinks – deleting error reports just because these are more hurting than he is going to accept will not get these errors fixed, i wonder if these are even entered into their bug database. probably not, and that way, opera bugs are here to stay.
Whoa, thats a lot of angry text right there. Aggressive much?
I didn’t see Opera mentioned anywhere in that article (try a text search for ‘Opera’). All it does is point out that the test is incomplete and could have errors and that people are being misled by Microsoft.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_(JavaScript_conformance_test)
As usual MS keeps comparing their own development version to other manufacturers stable versions.
For Firefox the numbers look like this:
Stable (5): 278 failed tests – of 10934Aurora (6): 230 failed testsNightly (7): 206 failed testsOTOH, Mozilla already has begun the work on ECMAScript 5.1, including Proxies and Weak Maps (originally called Ephemeron tables, might be renamed Object maps…)
What implications does it have for Opera to score so much lower than the others?
arrogance
Nothing, really. It’s just caused by lack of strict mode in Opera. Look at the Sputnik test instead. It’s more relevant for the web as it is now.
This test is fake…..
This test is fake…..
This test is not Fake… **** YOU!
ie still doesn’t have text shadow lol
Opera fails test262 or not?
http://my.opera.com/c69/blog/2011/07/01/opera-fails-test262-or-not
it fails:
http://kangax.github.com/es5-compat-table/ – tell me how the result could have been different when this is how opera supports ES5?
my mobile ff on android has it all green.. and ‘the bestestest browsah in the world’ not? so it is again fault of people that made the test?
it is OPERA OWN FAULT
What fault? About a test that almost nobody cares about only trolls like you? And also butthurted Firefox fans because their beloved browser soon will have the same market share like Opera? :D
Don’t let the numbers fool you. Tests are not equally distributed, and they were examined in that post.This – http://my.opera.com/c69/blog/2011/07/01/opera-fails-test262-or-not“TL;DR: Most of failed tests by opera belong to section 15 of ECMA-262 5.1th ed. : Properties of Array, Object and Function constructors.”“So… ES5 added some new properties and BECAUSE Opera does not support them – it is of course failing all those tests. But lets ask ourselves, how important is freeze and seal for JS ? strict mode ? are they crucial ? – absolutely not. They only help programmers who came from static languages are not used to the freedom that javascript offers them. (well, also they help our dumb silicon friends, aka CPUs to manage language complexity easier). Also, because those are new features – its perfectly fine to dedicate 30% of test cases to them.But 30% of tests does not equal 30% of language. Too bad marketing and PR do not care for truth…””NOBODY” IGNORES THE REALITY OF THE TEST
Post lost formatting. Trying again.
Don’t let the numbers fool you. Tests are not equally distributed, and they were examined in that post.
This – http://my.opera.com/c69/blog/2011/07/01/opera-fails-test262-or-not
“TL;DR: Most of failed tests by opera belong to section 15 of ECMA-262 5.1th ed. : Properties of Array, Object and Function constructors.”
“So… ES5 added some new properties and BECAUSE Opera does not support them – it is of course failing all those tests. But lets ask ourselves, how important is freeze and seal for JS ? strict mode ? are they crucial ? – absolutely not. They only help programmers who came from static languages are not used to the freedom that javascript offers them. (well, also they help our dumb silicon friends, aka CPUs to manage language complexity easier). Also, because those are new features – its perfectly fine to dedicate 30% of test cases to them.
But 30% of tests does not equal 30% of language. Too bad marketing and PR do not care for truth…”
“NOBODY” IGNORES THE REALITY OF THE TEST
and yet other browsers unanimously managed to score around 90+%
Still doesnt answer the TL;DR I quoted
And thats in addition to the test being unstable unfinished and with known invalid tests
AGAIN “NOBODY” IGNORES THE REALITY OF THE TEST
your TL;DR means – “most of you health issues come from brain, heart and liver, all other is supa great.. ” or “this car is in perfect order, but engine is missing”
again, hidden opera employee is spewing bullshit as cheap excuses
get back to work – fix this http://kangax.github.com/es5-compat-table/
Still doesnt answer the TL;DR I quoted
And thats in addition to the test being unstable unfinished and with known invalid tests
AGAIN “NOBODY” IGNORES THE REALITY OF THE TEST
Opera’s excuses are so pathetic.
It’s always an excuse when Opera is not up there. Yet they brag and brag when they beat the others.
Such childish behaviour
Your comment is so childish that it’s sad and kinda funny at the same time. It’s just the marketing, every other browser company (and in fact everyone who sells anything) does the same thing.
Really I had no clue.
Thank you for educating me person that is too lazy to come up with a unique username.
No. Opera does it too often. They complain when a test does not show their superiority. They make a big deal of a few ms in that javascript test or that acid compliance.
They are arrogant. If they just learn to shut up for once and not cry foul at everything, maybe they might get more respect.
LOL, Ifail is the internet tough guy who started threatening people IRL in that other thread. And here he goes again.
Hilarious!!
Cool I got an admirer.
When do you want to meet?
7:00 Ok?
Still trying to figure out what excuses might be needed. The facts are pretty clear, and Microsoft’s post was misleading.
Opera doesn’t usually make its own tests or benchmarks and then brag about winning. In this case Microsoft made a bunch of new tests (which they of course passed) and posted about it. That’s different from bragging when you win someone else’s test Id say.
You mean like the DHTML test they had? The one where chrome beat it?
Ohh don’t worry. Opera has their “tests”. They just don’t make it public because of the embarrasing results.
(Why do the other browser score between the margin of error when Opera is the outlier? Are the other browsers somehow cheating? Or are they simply suprior in this test?)
Can you give a reference?
(Why bash like this? Because there are too many fanboiz? Or because that’s how you find pleasure in life?)
Certainly. Try to find the “DHTML” test.
And their “tests” are on video they conduct themselves. For instance the “Fastest Browser”
I never bash. I am only concluding what Opera themselves have attributed themselves with.
You can say though love.
in other words this “dhtml test” doesn’t really exist and you are just making it up? is that it? if you actually had it you would have linked to it by now. your ’embarrassing results’ comment says it all about your extreme dishonesty.
Its hard to find give me a break.
all you did was link to a page with no context. please show me where opera made a comparison with other browsers and bragged about it. also show where chrome supposedly beat it, after opera made a test where they bragged about their performance.
and that devopera thing, WHAT? its talking about what sites are using, not what browsers are capable of.
what the is that watir thing? is that supposed to be this performance test where opera compared different browsers and bragged about it?
and some ‘fastest browser on earth’ quote.. where is the benchmark??
so far you have not been able to show a single example of an opera benchmark with real context, much less where chrome beat it. instead you link to one page with no context, one article with analysis of websites, and one with a page about watir while talking about ‘fastest browser on earth’
wtf??
Are you really saying that you are incapable of googling?
Would dot points to separate context help?
in other words this “dhtml test bragging” doesn’t really exist and you are just making it up? is that it? if you actually had it you would have linked to it by now. your ’embarrassing results’ comment says it all about your extreme dishonesty.
Please do not try to put words in my mouth. I never said ” DHTML test bragging” now did I?
You are taking one context, completely twisting to suit what you deem convenient. You would think these things are linked but they are done on purpose to have no relation.
But if you really want tooting. Then here you go:
http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2010/03/02/
http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/a-new-era-of-browser-speed
Choose Opera Bro!
you wrote “You mean like the DHTML test they had? The one where chrome beat it?”
you still havent linked to this dhtml test they made where chrome beat it and they bragged about winning.
your the one twisting the context, and your links both show opera winning at tests made by other browser vendors. isnt that interesting.. other browsers make their own tests to look good. opera beats them at their own tests. still waiting for opera’s own tests(benchmarks) that they bragged about ..
still waiting for a link to that dhtml bragging over a test they made..
I’m guessing if Microsoft love graphs and benchmarks so much, perhaps they could plot IE9 vs Opera 11.50 in this test..
http://nontroppo.org/timer/Hixie_DOM.html
Oh no, they wouldn’t do that, only positive cherry picking here……
Well, that’s what any company does. As if any other browser writes a blog post about how they rank last in this or that test.
No, that’s what Microsoft do.
Companies like Opera don’t really concern themselves with trying to fool people into using their product, making it out it’s the best, they concern themselves with making the best product they can.
I’m guessing Opera is 90% engineerings, but someone like Microsoft, that figure would be less than 50%
It’s a shame that marketing trumps technology, and consumers are braindead idiots that use whatever the companies with the biggest marketing budgets tell them to use.
Tell me, what kind of watch do you wear? What brand of fridge did you buy? The car you drive? Your phone? Which bank do you use? Clothes? Food? You (like everybody else) are likely using what is marketed well and thoroughly. If you are not, congratulations.
Technology is like magic for a lot of people: they do not want to understand what they can’t understand, and they can’t understand what they do not want to understand. Thus they check what is marketed, and so they use IE or Chrome. FireFox is not marketed well enough any more, so less people start using it. Likewise with Opera.
Does the perceived personality of a browser, the company and their employees have anything to do with how you should use or judge the tool? No, yet we do.
I investigate all options when I buy stuff, and buy the best or best value.
That’s why I own a PS3 and not an Xbox
That’s why I own an Android phone (a HTC) and not an iPhone.
That’s why I own an Asus Transformer and not an IPad2
And so on….
It is the vendors fault for not targeting marketting at specific markets. You cannot blame people or ignorance for that matter due to how a said company has chosen to market themselves well.
Unfortunately, it no longer matters if you have the best product, when the companies around you have bottomless advertising budgets.
Google and Microsoft will dominate the browser wars, because they have so much money to pour into marketing, and people use what they know, and are too lazy to explore anything else.
And yet if the product is shit (excuse the wording) then people will go elsewhere.
Tech savvy people are not lazy. No one is lazy. They are just misinformed. Opera advertises heavily in
Norway. They even got a coup (some small car) going around with Opera banners.
IE was crap to a certain point correct? Now given that Microsoft has infinite advertising potential per se, then why are they steadily losing market share? Is it because a new piece of software with better advertising has appeared or that people are so adamant to move away from the crap that they seek and find better alternatives.
It’s like a juxtaposition between better alternatives and choice
“Opera advertises heavily in Norway. They even got a coup (some small car) going around with Opera banners.”
more claims. proof, or shut up. (those small cars were in spain btw, not in norway)
oh, the angry Opera Blog Comment Manager.. ‘proof or shut up’? rly? havent you some censoring to do?
????
All I read is contradictions
no proof of heavy advertising in norway; no proof of why they would do this in a tiny market like norway
no proof of small cars with opera banners in norway; no proof of why they would do this in a tiny market like norway
no proof at all
contradictions? no; just lack of proof
Do you live in Norway?
Ozyy
no proof again
show proof .. or shut up
Why dont you show some proof that they are not advertising …. or shut up
Who the hell are you anyway?
Guest.
you made the claim. proof … or shut up
Make me. Complex.
????
All I read is contradictions
I guess you didn’t make the connection between Opera Mini and the “small car” which is a MINI.
Aside from the heavy advertising and people seemingly being much more trusting of the name “Google” than “Microsoft,” let’s not forget that Chrome is bundled with popular free software. I recently updated CCleaner and ended up with Chrome installed and set as my default browser. I wasn’t presented with an opt-out checkbox like usual, and there were no “Decline” buttons to not install Chrome.
I didn’t have any idea Chrome was being downloaded and installed with my update. I could only tell the update was taking much longer to download and install than usual (which was because of Chrome’s bloated install file). I didn’t even know it was installed until I saw the Chrome logo where my default browser’s icon usually is. I immediately uninstalled Chrome and if it happens again I will uninstall CCleaner.
> Now given that Microsoft has infinite advertising potential per se,
> then why are they steadily losing market share?
I guess that due to the massive corporation behind IE and the foothold in business companies, the decline is ‘only’ slow. Another example: if MS Works was called Google Works or Mozilla Works, I doubt anybody would use it.
> Opera advertises heavily in Norway.
I wouldn’t know. Do you live in Norway? For sure, Opera remains a rather invisible company in the US. With only 260 million possible users the US still has a relatively great weight when talking about market share and popularity. Opera struggles to find a foothold in the US. I think that, should it be able to grab a greater market share, it would raise its visibility greatly everywhere.
Dont forget about mobile where Opera is the #1 browser globally.
I love you all guys… the browser with the lowest market share (my beloved Opera) always gets 90% of all comments on this page here…. one of the major reasons why I come here again and again.
Just to be fair:
Yes, Opera is bad in this test (fails on Javascript strict mode).
No, this does not say much about general Javascript compliance or performance.
Yes, the test is incomplete, but so is every test up to now?
Maybe, the test is biased by Microsoft, but the other browsers (Chrome, Fx, Safari) seem to do well, so who cares?
So take it as what it is: a snapshot of a small part of Javascript that is tested in Browsers. Some to better, some to worse (or: Opera does worse than the others). If you want to use strict mode, maybe you will have to consider Opera-Users will not visit your website very often (bad for them… Opera is to blame).
Microsoft is using this test to make it look like it is the most standards compliant, just like it did with HTML5 last year. Thats the problem.
I bet if Opera scored well you would’nt be complaining.
Why must you people defend it.
It got a low score. Period.
Chrome might have gotten a low score. Period.
Firefox might have gotten a low score. Period.
IE might have gotten a low score. Period.
If something fails a test no matter how biased it simply means you failed that test. Period.
It is up to people how they interpret the results.
I wish for every browser to get a low score some point in their time of being. Rather than put their tails between their legs it will be more proactive to improve your product and prove people wrong. Success is what you make of it.
Prove us all wrong!
if opera or some other browser won, the criticism wouldn’t be valid because microsoft wouldnt be using the tests to make it look like their browser is the most standards compliant. reading comprehension anyone? your still changing the subject ..
I thought the subject was why Opera had a poor result due to this test compared to the others.
I thought the subject was why Opera had a poor result due to this test compared to the others.
the subject is microsoft’s blog and its misleading content; well placed criticism
Nope.
Guest Wrote: “Opera’s excuses are so pathetic”
then we piled on.
The main subject might be IE’s test but this whole conversation pans from that statement.
the subject is the test page my microsoft and how its misleading people again.
making people think msie is the most complaint browser when it isnt.
thats the subject
Then you should have started a new post rather than reply.
It’s amazing how nearly everyone is arguing about Opera’s bad score on an incomplete test. But isn’t every test incomplete?
And why is Opera complaining? It’s their fault they went away from the past and turned into a bunch of marketing liars promoting a browser which has failed to keep up with its rivals.
Consumers are just as bad. They believe in the marketing hype instead of sticking with what they know. The only time I haven’t stuck with my gut feeling was when I got an Xbox 360 in 2009.
And the accusations of lchann (IDK if it’s an L or an i) being a tough guy is ridiculous. Maybe he is arrogant, but he’s only trying to get his point across (I’m assuming he’s a guy as IDK much about them).
no one is complaining. someone just pointed out that microsoft makes it look like msie is the most compliant when it isnt
why are you calling other companies marketing liars when its microsofts lies that are being discussed here? funny double standard on your part
No, every test is not incomplete. Acid1-2-3 – not incomplete. Sunspider – not incomplete. They test what they are supposed to test.
Some tests are not necessarily 100% complete but still good enough (good coverage of most things, no faulty tests, and so forth). test262 is not. Not even close to finished. Not even close to complete.
Some tests can be used to compare browsers. Some can’t because they are so far from complete it doesn’t even begin to make sense. Again test262 belongs to the latter category.
Learn the difference instead of accusing everyone but Microsoft of marketing lies. It’s ok to be a Microsoft fanboy but it’s not OK to be as disingenuous as them.
there is Nobody and nobody, ie. certain Opera Employee (starts with H) troll that this time decided to steal nobody’ identity
my posts are quite easy to recognize (i dont like opera much :) ) his posts are easy to recognize too – he is stupid
it is also quite easy to distinguish – i have one account here for years – he.. well, he creates lots of them – just check
——
On the other hand – even incomplete test are able to tell outstanding (for good or bad) from the rest – test262 makes easy to see what browser has substantialy worse support for certain, testes aspects of ES5 – it is opera
Your posts are quite easy to recognize. They are filled with obsessive compulsive trolling.
I never said Microsoft didn’t market lies.
And you say don’t be as “disingenuous” as them. Then learn not to steal someone else’s identity. That’s disingenuous.
Damn fanboy of tests which don’t even mean much yet.
As a developer it gets frustrating having to write extra code just so that websites can have to same look and action across all browsers. Knowing that Internet Explorer has the majority of the browser market makes this even more of a challenge when everyone knows that they are the least compliant with the sudo standards that have become what we now use to develop web facing applications. HTML5 CSS3 have already become the standard accross the other browsers but IE 10 will be the first version of Internet Explorer that is really going to take advantage of this and adapt the standard. IE 9 was supposed to be compliant yet we are still having to write extra code to allow cross browser compliance, there really does needs to be a set standard for all browsers to follow prior to their release.
Can’t we all get along…..It is just a browser…..nothing to get all worked up about,…Relax, pop a top, and enjoy whatever browser you use.