March, 2009 – Internet Explorer, Opera Loses; Firefox, Safari, Chrome Gains
Despite Internet Explorer 8 launch, IE continues to lose its market share and this time fell by 0.62, from 67.44% to 66.82%.
Firefox market share trend is quite clear: up, from 21.77% to 22.05% (0.28 increase).
After previous loss, Safari managed to increase its market share by 0.21, from 8.02% to 8.23%.
With more and more Chrome ads all over the net, its market share also continues to rise. This time it went up by 0.08, from 1.15% to 1.23%.
Opera‘s market share trend is a flat line most of the time in Hitslink. This time it fell by 0.01, from 0.71% to 0.70%
Opera Mini market share remains the same: 0.07%.
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For Firefox: 22.05% – 21.77% = 0.28% not 0.25%
Oops, fixed, thanks a lot.
> Opera’s market share (…) felt by 0.01%, from 0.71% to 0.70%
That’s incorrect.
0.71% — 100%
(0.71-0,70)% — x
Opera felt by 1,4%!!!
Or did you mean that Open felt by 0.01% percentage point?
The same mistake for all other comparisons.
My bad again, fixed :o)
What is this nonsense?
Net Applications?
Why are you quoting Net Applications when you know that they are liars?
StatCounter reports an increase for Opera worldwide, from 2.94 to 3.05:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200903-200904
Stop spreading lies!
I am doing that cause I have been doing that for almost two years now, and no, they are not liars :-)
They are not liars but the results they release are skewed so I would like for Vygantas to use results from a site where the results are not skewed such as
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-200903-200904
But he has done it for so long I would’nt expect him to change his results outlet.
I fail to understand how Opera can be doing so poorly. I’ve been using it off and on for years, back when they were charging for ever minor changes, I quit using it for years because it became the most expensive program I owned. I recently started using Opera 10 with Turbo and it’s very fast and super configurable. I also like Chrome and it will be a super browser when it’s closer to being a finished product, right now it lacks several things I consider to be necessities in a browser but it is fast. Firefox 3.5 is also an excellent product and shows great promise.
Well, from what I mostly read:
Guy x installs Opera
Guy x surfs few sites
Guy x finds out that some of sites he browse doesn’t work well with Opera
Guy x uninstalls Opera
yeah, that scenario is exactly what happens.
sites do not work because there are so few opera users and because opera does little as a company to ease the burden of creating pages that work with opera. developer tools made by opera are ‘the shit’. their development stopped before introducieng even most basic things, its UI is terrible, and there is little hope that it will ever change or improve. without tools debuging various opera quirks and ‘we know best and we will do things differently than the rest’ attitude problems.
without tools, most rich sites (almost all these days) are not going to work. and thus people uninstall opera.
sorry, but if i can access most sites with my iphone or g1 browsers and these sites all fail in opera desktop version, then sorry, it is pathetic.
Vygantas, give me an example of a site that Opera doesn’t render correctly (keep in mind, I’m using Opera 10 alpha). I haven’t run across one.
While this is not “rendering” issue, here is one:
http://everydaydrinkers.tv/recipe/peartini
Controls doesn’t work on full screen.
Another one:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34014.html?type=flv
Click full screen icon…
Those are so far the ones which I can remember
Couldn’t duplicate your supposed problem with http://everydaydrinkers.tv/recipe/peartini
Managed to see what your talking about on http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34014.html?type=flv, however I was able to eleminate the problem by turning off “Fit to Width”
I was using 9.5 with fit to width off.
EDIT: Just tried with Opera 10 .tv site and still, when video is playing in full screen, controls just disappears and I can’t pause the video.
However, gametrailers actually went full screen but video didn’t started, could be just temp. site issue
“nobody” is a moron.
BS.
Stopped? It’s still under active development.
Stop lying.
How do you define “active”? There were NO updates, blog posts or even comments in the forum from the team for around 3 months and last mayor update was in last year. Is this “active” or am I missing something?
http://my.opera.com/dragonfly/blog/
last CONTENT update (not some completly useless languages):
Opera Dragonfly alpha 3, update 1
Autor: virtuelvis. Friday, 28. November 2008, 14:46:29
I call it stagnant and TBH agree with “nobody” claims about current DF being useless.
I would probably be called an Opera fanboy by some, but I have to agree that Dragonfly is stagnant and pretty much useless right now.
Actually, if you read the Dragonfly blog (why did “ps” link to it without actually reading it?), you will see that it is being ACTIVELY developed, but you won’t see the results until the next version of Opera, which has stuff required for the new stuff in DF to work.
active development and complete lack of any visible results for 4 months? lol
if YOU could read youd see that these changes are visible in current opera 10 releases. with 2.2 engine. and there are STILL no changes.
this is bull.. development is stalled, nobody cares about it. it is yet another opera ‘product’ that was left in its infancy and is going to stay in this stage forever. it seems that opera cares more about ‘meeting a deadline’ that ‘delivering actual, working and usefull product’. most of their creations look like they were done in 40% and left there, because 40% is enough for fanbois to defend them.
fanbois cant change one thing – it is firebug that made firefox so compatible with websites. it is because of ease of use and rich functionality of firebug most if not all todays websites ‘just work’ with firefox. that makes firefox able to grow in marketshare – it is selfpowered mechanism. because there is only aroud 1% of people that are willing to use a defective product. opera is a defective product – every single top10 page fails in opera in some point or another, and for years we only hear excuses from opera. mobile safari handles them ok! so it is possible. maybe instead of creating COMPLETLY useless widgets (it is 20th century concept now) or remote debuging for dragonfly, they needed to create working firebug copy and then introduce that remote crap?
Just because you can’t see something doesn’t mean that it isn’t being actively developed.
And the 2.2 engine is not sufficient, as explained:
“we are just busy working on the Presto 2.3 and Presto 2.4 versions of Opera Dragonfly. We need the new capabilities added to the Scope module in these versions of our rendering engine”
So yes, it’s under active development, but there’s no point in releasing something that requires things that aren’t available to the public.
What’s with your broken English? You sound like some drunk Eastern European with an attitude problem :D
Trolltroll is troll.
I cant see anything being ‘developed’ and Opera many times in the past lied so I dont believe them (silverlight support was promised for silverlight 2, it was a lie).
Current stable Opera uses dragonfly in completly useless shape and form – with revolting UI, no functionality and stupid way of reloading pages. it is unusable to use in production environment, so it doesnt change a bit when it comes to developer’ ability to develop for opera.
Opera 10 uses a bit better dragonly with more useless crap added and gazilion languages, but, as an alpha is not used for development, because sites need to work NOW not in some ‘comming soon’ uncertain future of Opera 10 release.
from both sides dragonly IS THE SHIT. it doesnt help anyone, is stagnant in releasing new features and in 2.5yrs of development EVERY OTHER browser managed to get decent, usefull and working set of development tools. Opera fails. and there is a price for that failure – no top10 page works 100% in opera. and it will never be – if opera doesnt care for developers, dont count on developers being good to opera. firefox was, they already have got their fav browser. and it isnt opera.
as for the nationalistic remarks – be afraid of swine flu, it is comming
silverlight is developed by ms –> opera software can’t do anytrhing that silverlight is working in opera!
and languages in dragonfly are extremly important! you don’t have to use it. it is only one more possibility of choise for you. you are able to stick with firebug or you application of you’re choise!
oh and again: it is (mostly) not operas fault that the pages don’t work in the browser: for that there are web – developers: the webmaster should program with standards! the world is changing: and the webpages will be mostly programmed with standards in future!
pages writen with ‘standards’ in mind can as well break in opera. and they will untill developers test it against opera and debug any bugs. they’ll not do it if there are no tools present.
times of ‘alert driven development’ are gone, and any browser vendor not providing set of contemporary and feature-full webdeveloper tools is guilty of stupidity. well, given that opera is the only one, no wonder why developers dont waste their time fixing bugs.
it takes few hours to debug an AJAX problem in opera, and just few minutes using firebug. any questions why opera is not supported by most rich applications?
“nobrain” is spewing out nonsense again, I see.
Now you are lying. Silverlight is mainly a browser sniffing thing, but that’s irrelevant. The Dragonfly team actually reported that they are working on it right now, unlike any such messages about Silverlight. Thus, it is not a promise, but a progress report.
That you are unable to accept facts is well known, though!
No one cares what you, a blatant troll, is spewing out. Your opinion is completely irrelevant, as you spend all day bashing Opera around the web.
Wrong. As you would have known if you didn’t automatically reject reality, Opera reports that it is in active development. It just requires a newer core which isn’t available to the public.
You have your own flu? :D