Opera 10.50 Final Released
Just as expected, today Opera Software has released the final version of Opera 10.50 for Windows, with Mac and Linux versions soon to follow.
In case you don’t know yet, Opera 10.50 has received a significant performance boost, thanks to their new JavaScript and rendering engines. Updated look and new features are also in the package.
What’s new?
Better integration with the Windows operating system
Opera “O” tab and menu
Opera Carakan JavaScript engine
Opera Presto 2.5 rendering engine
Opera Vega graphics library
Opera Widgets for Desktop
Private browsing
… and more
Thanks to Daniel Hendrycks for news tip.
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First impressions:
– the middle click scrolling doesn’t work as it should. If you middle-click-drag and then leave the middle button it doesn’t do anything… And it should;
– the ribbon is hideous and the Opera’s symbol is so nice to make a proper ribbon. Besides, it’s not very usable;
– tabs on top means it’s hard to work with, and I can’t find a way to change that, which means it sucks in terms of customization;
– new tab page is still boring;
– thumbnails on the tab bar is neat, but I can’t see much use for it, as it takes way too much room. Besides, the normal preview popup is more than enough. And the favicon;
– tab movement animations are neat;
– the tab bar resize line gets WAY TOO MUCH in the way;
– page rendering progression is still the same old stuff. I was honestly expecting something neater from Opera (but then again, I don’t follow them that much). I think the oldschool image and text popuping up as the page is loaded is uncool and ugly. Firefox does it much cooler, even without the default 250ms delay on rendering. I think some fading and unfading would be cool. Even if just optional, to appease the geeks who can notice the difference between 245ms and 321ms…
– the scroll smoothing is a headache, but then again, it always was. And to be honest, it’s the best scroll smoothing that comes by default on any browser. My Firefox does it better, though, thanks to a neat extension I have around somewhere;
– Windows 7 multi preview support is an issue for me, in terms of both privacy and usability. Opera already has a tab manager, I don’t need windows to get in the way with its own tab manager that’s crappier and gets in the way. I hope there’s some switch to disable this behavior. I mean, it’s the reason why I use faviconized tabs in Firefox, that are constantly open but don’t get in the way and are always there… Opera just had to go with the crowd on this one, didn’t they? Sigh;
– home page is boring as always. As with any browser, I should say. Props for Firefox 4.0 with its innovative home button placement and home page function and style;
– full screen mode sucks;
– the “Show menu bar” menu option is hidden in “file” when it should be in “view”… Sigh;
– has RSS reader. That’s a good thing, right? I mean, it had it before, but Chrome doesn’t have it! How dull is that! Eheh;
– the tab bar resize line gets WAY TOO MUCH in the way, AGAIN;
– the location bar isn’t particularly functional;
– the Windows 7 preview support is a real pain in the ass… Sigh;
– the loading bar still isn’t pretty, but it’s functional, which is a plus;
– overall a very boring browser… Where are the addons and all the costumization?
That is all for now.
hey man do you really post your opinion about opera or this is just another anti opera browser post
Butthurt much?
What are you talking about? This is my opinion. If you want, I can discuss each point in particular. Or you can give yours or something.
There’s a reason why Opera doesn’t cut it for many people, you know? And honestly? I was going to include stuff about the torrent downloader and the email client and whatnot, but I didn’t even bother checking those so I left those out. I imagine how you’d react if I didn’t.
Anti-opera… This is criticism. And I don’t even hold Opera to the same standards I hold Firefox, so hold your complaints back a bit, will you?
first of all you talked too much about the bad design
but generally speaking most of the people appriciate its newer sleek design and a lot say it is the best browser design now
second whad do you mean by rendering as same as before ?
is all people and media lie about new javescript and presto mich make it mach or surpass google chrome 5b
how full mode should be? semi full mode !!!!
rss reader + e mail still great and beter than some of specilize clients
wedgets will be hall environment and you still complaint
Well, it’s not my fault, is it? Bad design is a plague that afflicts many.
It has its strong points, of course, but remember that design isn’t just appearance. I think those “most of the people” don’t really grasp that concept. No offense.
Nothing particularly important. I feel the web still renders in a very mechanical way. They way the pages appear as they are being downloaded, they are still very… mechanical. I think any browser will benefit from finding a way to make it prettier. And I think Opera’s the one that’s best positioned in the market to venture into that field. I mean, they have all those cool animations for tab actions and whatnot, why not have animations for page rendering too?
Yeah, when chrome eventually does it, there’s no stopping them. Not that I mind, but people really care about that stuff, prettiness and all. Chrome is proof of that: a browser that offers no serious advantage over the competition, that lacks features and is heavy as stone, but the looks… I’m not a fan, personally, but the looks are what matters for the mainstream. And Opera could get the “looks” into page rendering.
I think Firefox does it the best: a tool bar that hides itself on the top. It’s really functional, and at least you can navigate as usual with it.
I don’t understand your tongue.
Except there is no bad design here. The UI was designed by Jon Hicks (of Firefox logo fame). You may not like the design. But I actually doubt that. You are just here to spew negativity in a HUGE post with lots of invalid points.
Why are you consciously posting huge messages like that just to hijack the blog?
Boy, what a looser…
In any case, appearance isn’t all in design, as I’ve pointed out, and besides, I didn’t criticize the appearance.
Yes, you did complain about the design/appearance. But it was designed by one of the best designers in the industry, so clearly you are wrong.
I think a professional designer knows good design better than you.
I understand your point, but what you’re arguing is called ad verecundiam.
And even that’s besides the point. I may be a small time game designer only, but you don’t know that. What if I was even more important and respected than him? Would that change the validity of my argument at all?
That’s ad verecundiam.
Argumentum ad Verecundiam is the fallacy of appealing to the testimony of an authority outside his special field. Jon Hicks is an authority within the field of design, which means that there is no Argumentum ad Verecundiam here.
Using a term like “Argumentum ad Verecundiam” just makes you look silly.
Saying what you just said is what’s silly. Because you’re wrong. Go check your facts again, mister.
What is wrong?
The definition of Argumentum ad Verecundiam? No, my definition is correct.
The fact that Jon Hicks is a renowned designer? No, he is. So as a designer, he is indeed an “authority”.
Thus, no Argumentum ad Verecundiam.
Argumentum ad verecundiam is the appeal to authority. Not to an authority outside his special field.
@ nvm
I said, check your facts. You didn’t. Please do.
Also, what Grrblt said.
Morbus: I mast agree with you. And I can add that Opera Link is just stupid feature which doesn’t work good. And All In all Opera 10.5 eats a lot of RAM only with one inactive tab opened – 200 mb.
In conclusion – FAIL.
Seriously?! :| I didn’t look into that, but I know that Opera 10.10 used just a little bit more RAM than Firefox 3.6… Have they gone and got it worse?!
Bad move. Bad, bad move…
12 tabs open, 120MB here. Do a clean install and wipe hidden folders.
Nonsense. It’ll use memory if you have it. Tell it not to use your memory and it won’t. Settings, Preferences, History, try changing the Memory Cache setting.
Using memory is not a problem. Wasting memory is.
I get what you mean, but I said it fares worse than Firefox 3.6, not that it did bad or anything. I’m perfectly ok with its memory consumption levels.
Now bear and mind memory cache is a serious performance issue on old HDDs…
” Have they gone and got it worse?!
Bad move. Bad, bad move…”
and then you say:
” I’m perfectly ok with its memory consumption levels.”
Wow…
“Now bear and mind memory cache is a serious performance issue on old HDDs…” – that’s why they give you the option to change it.
What? Can’t I be ok with memory consumption and not criticize the developers for increasing them? After all, I’m criticizing and praising Opera and I won’t use it anyway…
It’s like when I say iPhone should have a frontal camera. I wouldn’t use video calls anyway, and I’m ok with the lack of that particular hardware.
So Morbus admits that he has no interest in Opera. His only reason for posting here is to bash Opera.
Pathetic.
Look at the way he tries to defend Firefox’s massive memory leaks…
Firefox doesn’t have memory leaks.
“Firefox doesn’t have memory leaks.”
LOL.
http://www.grimmemennesker.dk/data/media/2/LOL.jpg
The only fail here is Žilvinas.
Firefox doesn’t have memory leaks.
LOL a good 1
running opera 10.5 now.looks awesome.and i dont get the ram usage.its using 81 mb with facebook,favbrowser and youtube(video playing)open.with only favbrowser,around 16 mb.chrome with th same 3 sites using 140 mb.and firefox with the same sites 118 mb.lol.
I guess for people who only have 3 tabs at a time, it doesn’t really matter much…
Opera looses to Firefox when you go above 10 or so tabs.
and firefox loses on everything else.look at my comment below and say whether firefox has got any of them.dont say extensions.i cannot bring myself to search for those extensions,install them only to find that they ve stopped working with the next update.and firefox is slow.
If you take away the unique selling point of the competition, is there really any point in commenting?
Seriously, “dont say extensions”? What the hell?
Firefox isn’t slow. It’s slower than Chrome and Safari and Opera, but the difference is minimal. Even if other browsers are 50% faster, that’s 50% of such a small amount of time that it doesn’t even matter. And it’s very easy to understand why.
Fact is, Firefox without extensions is not Firefox. The browser is made with those extensions in mind, features are purposefully not built into it because they belong to the extension pool, and to deny them is like… I don’t even know what it’s like!
Just to address your issue of speed, note that even though many users argue that “milliseconds don’t matter” and “50% is such a small amount of time”, on aggregate, it makes a big difference.
Equally so, perception is very important – a fluid UI with quick loading is much nicer to use, and magnifies the small differences.
speed differences are highly noticable.with my crappy broadband connection(i cannot download at a speed above 30 kbps),to load rottentomatoes.com,firefox takes 21 secs,chrome and opera around 12 secs and opera with turbo takes around 6-7 secs.
When last did you open 20+ tabs at once? When last did you repeat the same action over and over again? That’s the aggregate, I find. And honestly, Firefox (if we’re talking about it) more than makes up for it by speeding up the workflow. Remember, it’s not the question of Firefox being slower and you going “boy, I take so long to do this stuff…”. It’s the question of other browsers being faster and you going “boy, this is so much faster with this browser!”. And that doesn’t happen. Not for me at least.
But for me, it’s all down to customization. Because I can tweak everything to how I do it, and opening all my commonly used bookmarks and checking my usual feeds takes like 2 seconds in Firefox, while in other browsers it takes much longer. And I do that AT LEAST 10 times a day.
And the fact is, while my Firefox may be slower than other browsers (even though I can’t notice it without the aid of a chronometer), I don’t miss one single feature from other browsers. Not text field resizing, not speedial, not url highlight, not anything. And if I switch to any other browser, I’m immediately missing a whole bunch of things that make my workflow much faster, be it url compartmentalization, a sidebar like I want it to be, faviconized tabs, tab scrolling, drag and drop into the search field while choosing the search engine, among other things.
Yeah, that’s probably right. But what you have is not broadband. Broadband is, by definition equal or higher than 512KB, and what you have is probably half that value. That is not broadband, even if your ISP says it is.
address bar autocomplete,mouse gestures, private tab, opera unite, turbo, speeddial, torrent client and lots more in the fastest browser.i couldnt have asked for anything more.
– middle click scroll works fine
– the ribbon is perfect as it is
– there’s no tab resize line, and you can wait for new minimal skin to appear soon
– tab preview is useful for widescreen monitor users who put tge tab bar on the side
– images and text popping up? you can configure instant redrawing of the page while being loaded
– “show menu bar” is in the opera button because it’s the first place newbies will be looking for it
– can disable windows 7 integration, look into opera:config and tweak what you want
– scrolling is smooth enough
– you can use userjs and usercss, plus widgets
– opera link useless? someone here is just trolling, i see
– 200mb with one tab? bullshit. anyway, you probably have 2 gigs of unused ram, who cares about resource usage of 2 gigs or ram?
aaaand that’s all, you don’t know shit about opera, but thanks for trying.
Great answer, couldn’t have put it better myself. Its amazing how people scream lack of some advanced feature that they got through endless tweaking in firefox, and then don’t bother looking at how to get them through tweaks in Opera.
must be my station’s problem then. When I click and hold the middle button it behaves as normal, but if I lift my finger it doesn’t go back to a normal pointer. Instead, it keeps the scrolly thing on. Is that a common issue?
You must be using Opera 10.10 or something then. If you hover between the tab bar and the adress bar you can see that you can resize the tab bar to show thumbnails and all. Try installing the version advertised in the article first.
Ohhh! That’s cool.
I know I can, but that’s not what I meant. Read my previous comment if you care to.
I was under the impression that Opera users weren’t newbies… But maybe I’m wrong.
Thanks for the tip.
Who are you referring to exactly?
Works fine here.
You can drag to enable thumbnails in 10.10. It’s just better looking in 10.50. Works great!
Opera will be presented in the Windows ballot screen to millions of Europeans.
What’s that to do with anything?
What that has to do with it is that, because of the ballot screen, this will be presented to many more potential users who are, for all intents and purposes, newbies. Having an easy way to find the familiar is essential.
Oh, I see… Well, still, that’s no kind of excuse. At all. I took like 20 seconds or something to find where it was, and that’s not good IMHO.
IMHO you are worse than the average person at looking then.
It’s amazing to see people complain about the way the browser is, and then not even look at the Customize options.
Morbus, most of your complaints come down to “I don’t like it, but I’m not going to say why”. That’s your right, but I don’t think people are going to take that sort of post too seriously.
That’s one of the reasons why I don’t write for any blog with this kind of content. Browser review is something that’s very pointless in my view, and that’s why I do this kind of posts, if I care to.
I find it’s better for people who are trying to get to know a browser if they read someone criticize it based on their own tastes, rather than based on any sense of objectivity or something like that. At least saying “X is ugly” is better than saying “X is perfect”. And when I say “X doesn’t work” as opposed to “X is perfect”, I state why. I didn’t go into detail, because I’ll fail at many points and expose myself to the counter-arguments of those who really know what they’re talking about, so I just say what I think in blunt terms.
I’m kind of disappointed that no serious designer even comments about this stuff. The ribbon as some serious design advantages that nobody ever highlights, and the disposition of the toolbar has a few issues that I can’t dig into because of my lack of serious knowledge, but nobody ever complains… Why do you think that is, Johnny?
So what Morbus is saying is that he rushed to invent a bunch of nonsensical complaints just to make sure he got to spam the blog post with overly negative nonsense…
No serious designer comments? You are aware that Jon Hicks is the lead designer at Opera, and has been working on the UI you as a random guy on a blog are complaining about?
Fail.
Rush huh? Bah… Morons will be morons…
Did he post here? I don’t think so…
Post here? He DESIGNED it. Ignorance is bliss, eh?
Who cares? I was complaining that no serious designer posts here. Can’t you read?
No, YOU wanted a designer to post here and agree with your completely false claims about Opera’s design.
The fact is that Opera 10.50 was designed by one of the most known and respected designers in the industry.
Mr. “Firefox doesn’t leak memoy”, LOL.
What a dumbass… Seriously. I ain’t replying to you anymore.
“I’m kind of disappointed that no serious designer even comments about this stuff.” What serious self respecting designer will come onto this site, filled with opinionated, closed minded people to have a discussion in the comments section to some news?
Designers aren’t gods, you know? They actually exist…
AT which point did I state or imply that they didn’t? Why would you write such an idiotic rhetoric?
No self respecting browser designer is going to waste his time coming to this site and argueing – too many trolls and ill informed. They will talk about it on respectable forums, with respectable people. I really would have thought this is obvious to anyone with any common sense.
You’d obviously know a lot about that, wouldn’t you?
Your comment is a perfect illustration of why no one will talk with you seriously.
You say it, who said this before:
“Ouch, the truth hurts ;)”
Lol.
“What you’re doing is trolling and flamebait. What I did was express my opinion. If you have a problem with it, then complain about it, not that” I posted it, and don’t be a looser.
Why is Morbus trying to take over the entire comments section by writing huge and nonsensical comments?
Let other people get the chance to speak! You already flooded the comments section with your huge first post which was obviously you trying to desperately come up with something to whine about.
What you’re doing is trolling and flamebait. What I did was express my opinion. If you have a problem with it, then complain about it, not that I posted it, and don’t be a looser. You are the one flooding.
Holy crap, Opera 10.50 is amazing.
### Faster than anything else. Completely destroys slow Firefox, and crushes Chrome
### Looks great. Jon Hicks has really outdone himself this time
### The O menu is really great. It’s easy to find stuff, and keeps it away until you need to do something. Wait for the other browsers to steal this (oh wait, Firefox already did, LOL!)
### Not a single crash after many hours of heavy browsing (Firefox crashes all the time, sadly)
### Love how the thick line above the tab bar was slimmed down
### Glass UI kicks ass
### Did I mention it’s FAST! Makes Chrome look like an turtle in comparison
### PROPER PRIVATE BROWSING! You don’t have to open a totlaly new window. Win, win, win!
Opera 10.50 is still unusable for me:
Aero look on Opera crashes when disabled and enabled again (due to gaming for example) and Opera require restart.
Still heap of bugs(crashes, memory leaks, UI glitches). I hope new users that will try this one will like it but for me from 10.10 this is downgrade.
Faster is good but if I loose functionality…
Do not misunderstand me I love Opera and new features are great but it is Rushed release and I have to wait till they finalize it.
Not a single crash here. Sounds like you have a corrupted installation.
No functionality is lost either.
There’s nothing rushed about this release. It’s stable as a mountain. Not one crash, and I’ve been really pushing it hard for hours on end.
New users love it. The reviews are raving!
try this if you want to crush your opera : http://niels.vg/media/opera_crash.html
or try to disable and enable Aero while opera is running.
try to make custom button that uses url of the page (%u) parameter – I use it to run the same page in firefox (when strange compatibility)
try watch trailer on IMDB (www.imdb.com)
try dragging bookmark in the closed(not expanded) folder in bookmarks
try this and watch your memory usage skyrocket http://www.business.brookes.ac.uk/postgraduate/Scholarships.asp?err404=postgraduate/scholarships.html
There ARE bugs and much more then in previous versions (10.10)
Functionality IS lost (some pages – IMDB , features – custom buttons)
But was the release rushed ? My opinion is YES.
Is it useful(rush)? More users on Opera better for compatibility, so let’s hope it is useful. But I’m staying on 10.10
Heh, you are parroting three of the same bugs that have been used to “prove” Opera is buggy. To prove that something is unusually buggy, you need more than the same old three bugs that have been parroted all along.
You are most likely the same person who has been posting those exact three bugs on multiple websites.
How long have these 3 bugs existed? Just 10.50? I am an Opera fanboy yes, but the compatibility to websites has always been crap, and just got a crap load better with the 10.50 release, thank God. I love Opera but still keep firefox around just because of these issues. If the Opera people ever get everything working how it should, then goodbye firefox forever!
I just reinstall graphic driver and messed with some settings and most annoying bug disappeared. :DDDDD Aero works fine now.
Long Live OPERA
Don’t understand me wrong, I Love Opera and the way it is going. But some morons like Crackerflat wan’t to denie everything you say bad about Opera. Doh. Flamer.
I said how it works on MY COMPUTER, only my. THe only thing they need to add is extensions, and people will go on with using opera. :)
There’s one such thing as fanboys.
In any case, the second time I tried to open Opera today, I got a message saying it was already running. Which means it didn’t close properly the first time I ran it… Nice.
Just saying though.
And with 3 tabs open and two closed, it was eating 120MB+ of RAM… WHILE NOT RUNNING…
@Morbus
It’s good to express one’s point but you, definitely are trying to make out something out of nothing, no offense brother.
‘If you REALLY don’t give a damn about Opera, stop replying and flaming users here……’
The ‘best browser’ is what you ARE currently using. Simply because it works for you and that’s the only thing you want. So, no flaming required. :)
Ouch, the truth hurts ;)
You’ll have to excuse me there, but I didn’t flame anyone that didn’t flame me first. And I have to apologize to them for doing so if they so demand, but I’ll demand a rightful apology too.
Again.
And indeed, there’s a tendency for what you say to be true, but it may not be in the cases of the people who haven’t tried out all browser or all experiences the available browsers can offer. The very same happens with those who don’t really know how to take advantage of the web. A few weeks ago there was one of those fanboys arguing with me here that didn’t even know he could drag and drop text into the search box! And this is common behavior in many browsers, not just opera or firefox.
As for not posting… I, unlike most, have something to gain from writing. Whatever it is. I’m exercising my English, I’m getting to know the written reaction of different people, and getting to know new simpleton ways of talking. I, unlike most, gain from that in professional terms. :P
Not that you care, of course, but there is a reason why *I* care to post.
Besides, it’s always nice to exercise our argumentative abilities, and who knows? Maybe I’m wrong in what I argue for and maybe there’s something I don’t know about browsers… Maybe my Firefox isn’t the best browser for me ;)
This kind of comments just make me said… If that’s what you wanted…
Mazeltov, congratulations, omedetou gozaimasu.
Oup. I seem to have mixed up the reply buttons. This reply was meant for INFINITI, while this was meant for Bemused, as normal.
so the game is on.
this is opera be-or-not-to-be gamble.
if they suceed – because 10.50 HAVE the potential to attract hordes of new users – they even might leave 5th position and climb above chrome and safari.
if they loose – this is it. opera would loose new users (repelled by bugs and little annoying problems) and old ones (annoyed by mall-executed rush release)
i’ve tried it.
crashed after 10.10 -> 10.50 update (the way 95% existing users will do it). bookmarks lost. no big deal, but.. opera link deleted them. oops.. data integrity error is a VERY serious one.
asking users to UNINSTALL 10.10 to install 10.50 is BS, noone will do it that way. and even if, installer should do it automaticaly.
clean install, my bank stopped working, gametrailers made opera crash. any setup and skin other than default is ugly and unfinished.
but yes, speed is good.
all other old problems persist. silverlight does not work (it loads, try keyboard input or anything other than loading), gmail/facebook/youtube/deviantart/docs/live/yahoo etc do not work, dev tools that are simply crap. without fixing that crap no webmaster will fix opera errors if he has a choice not to. and with 1% marketshare yes he has.
im worried, that people who will experience this release as bad as i did will never ever look back at opera.
Since you won’t ever look back at it, does that also mean you’ll stop posting about it?
“opera be-or-not-to-be gamble”
Oh, the drama!
Except you are blurting hyperbole again. Butthurt Firefox fanboy desperately trying to spread FUD about Chrome and Opera.
This is not “be or not be” for Opera. This is just another version. Opera’s desktop version has been growing nicely so far, and will continue to do so regardless of any fake dramas in a random blog.
When did they ask users to uninstall 10.10, BTW?
@nobody: +1 about Opera Link. That is really not working properly for me too. If they will fix at least that one. I may switch back to Opera. In between Opera doesn’t have Cooliris, because it doesn’t have extensions (Extensions = a lot of new interested users ) . All browsers which want to compete for first places, must have extensions. As far as I know and I see this is the most popular thing among browsers. And Google understood that, while Opera thinks they are going the better way with WIDGETS, which are not helpful as extensions. :)
I don’t blame the way Opera Team is developing their browser, but For Example.: For using these “Great” features like Unite, you must be registered user in Opera website. What for? Why the hell they did that. Do they need more users to be registered and not using [my dot opera dot com]
But defending Opera. I can say. Social Networks like Facebook are making just a one big mess. Not even Opera have crashed for me in Facebook, but all others too. Google Chrome has one big advantage for taking each tab a new process. I like Opera, but I want to work it as good as possible and to BE ABLE CUSTOMIZE IT properly, without being geek and without ability to code. I am user, not programmer.
You need to register for Unite in order to use their DNS system (to get a pretty and readable address). If they didn’t do it that way, you would have to buy your own domain.
And actually, Unite users are not automatically counted as my.opera.com users.
Maybe you should try to think logically rather than getting caught up in silly conspiracy theories.
Love the new UI of Opera. Still has some features that I don’t use (torrent, mail, turbo and widgets)
Opera is bloated. I’m not an anti-operafan. But it has some features that can be removed. About the ram issue: 400MB 2 tabs open. One of them is Opera Unite Media Player (Takes a little les ram than iTunes :P) and the other is this site.
But to have a look at the new Opera 10.50
Desktop Widgets. (Euhm, Windows vista + Windows 7 already have widgets)
Ribbon-like interface (Got to love it. it’s looks so clean)
Trashcan (I think it’s kinda useless. But it might be useful for other people.
Opera Unite (Love the media player xD)
Of course there are many new features but these I wanted to show :P
Can’t wait till Firefox 4 (and yes, I love firefox xD)
Funny that Firefox fan would accuse Opera of being bloated… Considering that Firefox is the very definition of bloat.
Sorry, but Firefox on a default installation is not bloated at all, (and neither is Opera) – this is exactly the kind of comment that degrades discussion.
I have been using Opera 10.5 from yesterday and i have to say that i haven’t faced many problems in my daily browsing yet. I upgraded my 10.10 directly and haven’t had the problems that others have mentioned. Opera Link works fine and i haven’t lost any bookmarks. I guess I must be doing something different. The speed is great although i had to fiddle with the proxy settings a bit.
All in all, its a great upgrade, although it does need a lot more work, which I’m sure the developers are putting in already. There are many bugs obviously, but they had to do the best they could within the limited timeframe. They have fixed the most obvious ones and the others have to wait till the next release, which i’m sure will be soon.
Opera
You gotta love it or hate it
just look at the amount of comments it gets :)
I love the Opera’s functionalities, you can custom it the way you want without extra add-ons. Although it’s a great browser, sometimes it doesn’t display some web pages correctly, to name one : facebook, there are some bugs here, while other browsers work fine (Firefox, Chrome, IE).
I love its speed, its security, its eye-candy. The next step they have to achieve is to make it displaying all the web pages correctly and I will definitely change from Firefox to Opera :)
As a long time Opera user I see a few improvements here & there plus the refreshed look BUT it struggles to load up my bookmarks (they take minutes to appear)and crashes when I click the X in top right corner .. presume the soon to appear? 10.51 will fix these gremlins.
Good browser but it seems it was rushed out yet again !!
Opera 10.5 install changed the configuration of my buttons and layout. Tried to restore my previous set up, but impossible. Tried to roll back to previous ver; impossible.
Time spent dealing with “upgrade” two hours! Time spent working on my job: 0 hours.
Opera’s target destination: My Garbage Can.
My Mood: &^%*2 Opera in the ASS.