Opera 10 to Support TLS 1.2 (SSL)
The upcoming release of Opera 10 Final will support TLS 1.2, Opera’s Core developers said earlier today.
According to the recent post, new features of 1.2 are:
- The way calculation of encryption keys is performed is made more dynamic, and new ciphersuites (set of encryption methods used by a connection) can define their own method, rather than having only the default one. This was necessary because some suites, such as a russian one, could not be used with the default method.
- The default digest method is now SHA-256, offering stronger security.
- Several new cipher suites (using existing encryption methods) also use SHA-256.
- It has better ways to negotiate what signature algorithms the client supports.
Although there is no official release date yet, leaked information reveals that Opera 10 Final will be probably released as early as September, 2009.
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why bother to make browser so secure, when it is incompatible with almost all major webmails, most js libraries and general majority of banking and ecommerce sites? and please, no rhetorics about how webdevelopers are to blame. opera is to blame for not delivering proper dev tools and proper attitude.
who cares how safe the browser is, when you cant use it?
compare how far safari managed to get in so short time, opera meanwhile managed to add spellcheck and autoupdates (feature even IE had).. YAY!
Got to agree there with nobody
The banking issues are usually with the site doing browser sniffing.
If you follow some of the security news you notice that old security tools like MD5 are being broken (can be spoofed) and have to be replaced.
“nobody” is a liar.
> opera is to blame for not delivering proper dev tools and proper attitude.
Opera’s attitude is that real web sites must work. Opera’s engine was created to cope with broken sites. You are lying about Opera’s “attitude”. As always.
> somehow other browser vendors manage to do security
> AND other work.
As does Opera. But you are dishonestly ignoring the fact that Firefox and IE are usually officially supported by sites. Opera has better compatibility than anyone else, but Opera is often blocked and is not officially supported. So even if it is more compatible in itself, that doesn’t help when sites usually are created to work around problems in other browsers.
And you are a blatant liar, as Opera does manage to do security and other work. Example: Recently we learned that they were working on a new JS engine, the dev tools have recently been upgraded, there’s a new Opera Mobile build, etc.
> reading about opera development one thinks that they
> are the company most separated from their market and
> customers ever
You are dishonestly assuming that Opera can only do one thing at a time, which is a blatant lie.
> safari in 2 or 3 years surpassed opera in almost
> everything
Safari has a higher market share in the US due to Mac. In other parts of the world, Opera beats Safari. Again you are lying.
> google chrome managed to beat opera market share in one month
Yet another lie. Google claimed 10 million users while Opera had 30 million users. 30 million is not a lower number of users than 10 million.
Further to that, Opera currently beats Chrome’s market share all over the world, perhaps except in the US.
> and both these browsers are BETTER mobile browsers
> than opera mobile
Subjective nonsense. You are just saying that because you are obsessing over Opera every hour of the day, so you spend all day trying to come up with anti-Opera FUD.
Why bother making browsers secure? I agree. That is why I use Firefox instead of Opera. Firefox doesn’t give a sh*t about security, unlike Opera.
And as we all know, a browser vendor can only ever work on one thing at a time. So while Opera has been working exclusively on security instead of stuff like automatic updates, Firefox has been working exclusively on creating a failed mobile browser.
i only judge by what i can see. i cannot see new opera javascript engine, but on the other hand i can see safari/chrome on mobile work better (on more sites/in full not lite mode) than opera mobile, current opera flagship. safari/chrome are both better on mobiles (faster, more desktop-like) but on desktop aswell, delivering what opera cant do – render (not try to render) almost everything perfectly.
all recent opera additions pale in comparison to what safari 4 presented (given HOW short was the developing cycle), to what FF 3.1 is going to include.
i stopped believing opera devs, when they lied about silverlight support. Opera now is THE ONLY browser that cant use this plugin. all others are either hacked or supported. even linux (moonlight). so whats up opera, care to explain?
as for the market shares.. you attack each and every stat site. but truth hurts – it is ie/ff/safari/chrome world now. opera is not even mentioned as major player anymore. this is the price of not knowing what to do, and overinvesting in a martket that does no longer exist (low-end phones), supporting 3 separate applications (desktop/mini/mobile) while it is perfectly possible to use one (chrome/safari) – with so many smartphones around operaMobile.. well, cant stannd up to safari/chrome on mobiles, and opera cant even touch the level of compatibility both safari and chrome enjoy. you can babble whatever you want, but you CANT use opera with neither of major webails. and who cares whos fault is it, you cant do that in opera, and it is opera that is blamed by users. case closed.
When I pay by card in internet I use only Opera, because that’s the only browser I trust.
“silverlight support. Opera now is THE ONLY browser that cant use this plugin” That is a Microsoft issue
“all recent opera additions pale in comparison to what safari 4 presented” Opera invented most of the things, tabs were invented by Opera
“Why bother making browsers secure? I agree. That is why I use Firefox instead of Opera. Firefox doesn’t give a sh*t about security, unlike Opera.” They do care and if you don’t you may get your identify stolen or your computer will be used to hack others. Security is very big right now with all the hacking going on at the moment.
“silverlight support. Opera now is THE ONLY browser that cant use this plugin” That is a Microsoft issue
WRONG
it is user’ issue. user cant use silverlight in opera. he checks silverlight in firefox (it works there) so he ‘knows’ that it is opera issue. it doesnt matter what the REAL TRUTH is, it is what market, the average joe, thinks. and he thinks ‘it is opera issue’. pretending that he should know that it is MS fault (it isnt, it is opera NS wrapper problem) take action and solve this problem by himself is stupid, naive and a waste of time
:“all recent opera additions pale in comparison to what safari 4 presented” Opera invented most of the things, tabs were invented by Opera”
even that isnt true – opera wasnt the FIRST browser with tabs :)
but abyway – WHO CARES who was first? it is good for historians and geeks. users DO NOT CARE. they care what is now. and NOW opera doesnt deliver en par with what safari4 presented. substituting current achievements with glorious memories of the past is.. leading nowhere. and it sounds like it is opera stronges selling point now ‘we invented everything you use in our competitors browsers, use our browser’… eeee? it doesnt work that way.
“WRONG”
“it is what market,” Opera has more than 20% in Russia and other places so that is not the issue.
“cross platform and cross browser support” Microsoft silverlight page
Then why does flash player have much better support than silverlight, flash works on all browser and OSs
It is the past that defines the future
The Great Feature Train Robbery
http://dustinwilson.com/articles/2009/02/24/The_Great_Feature_Train_Robbery/
Nobody, will you ever shut up with your bullshit? How is it Opera’s fault that large sites program exclusively for IE and FF? FF had the same problem 2 years ago and they only managed to get out of it due to heavy marketing (which Opera has never done).
The real truth is always what matters. What some dumb guy thinks because he doesn’t understand anything never matters.
Opera doesn’t deliver on par with Safari 4 beta because Opera 10 is still in alpha.
Hi, Nice to meet you all. Opera is my best choice. Although no add-in like FF, but all features has already built-in. Email client, able to save in mht, good security, and user friendly. low memory usage, and many more. Thank’s for opera.
I’ve tried FF, IE, Safari, Chrom. But still Opera is the Best……………….
On the issue of Silverlight / Opera compatibility, it would be comparable to Adobe CS running on Linux. Is that a user issue, an issue for Linux to somehow “fix” or an Adobe issue? Pretty obviously, it’s an adobe issue… it’s unrealistic to expect the issue to be addressed from any other quarter.
What we have here is the subtle game of market manipulation. Firefox is only reluctantly supported by MS because they admit that IE is losing market share, and MS made a corporate decision that potential Silverlight dominance was worth the compromise of supporting FF. From MS’s perspective, no such benefit can be felt by supporting Opera.
From the user’s and developer’s perspective, what does Silverlight actually bring to the table that Flash and other technologies don’t already? Nothing. And that’s the point – like Vista, Silverlight brings no new benefits to users. It’s another lock-in technology. That’s the only “user issue” – awareness. So the solution is clear: boycott silverlight, and boycott sites that use silverlight.
well, i do not agree
first of all – sliverlight DOES bring something over flash – FREE and easy to use development environemnt – visual studio (Express IS free). adobe flash requires serious software investment
secondly – silverlight integrates GREAT with existing .net applications (you’d be surprised how many of these is floating around), thus allowing easy and non-revolutionary development. flash cant do that
from the developer point of view it is so atractive, that perspective of locking out 5% of user (opera/linux) is quite good actualy.
as for boycoting, yeah.. boycot any webmail because they do not support opera? naaah. it wont happen.
and i will repeat. microsoft went GREAT lenghts to allow silverlight work on ANY ‘netscape plugin capable’ browser. yes, there is a browser sniffing done in default deploynment, but only because opera fails even without it. there are some hacks around, you can do proxy rewrite and mask yourself entirely as FF. but opera still fails. and it is opera’ plugin architecture to blame. it is too f.. strict and paranoid.
many bizzare browsers can run silverlight in 100% with some browser spoofing. lone opera fails. whos fault is it?
Imo, Silverlight is way better than Flash. For one, there’s the Moonlight alternative which actually work, while Gnash and Flash10 barely work even badly.
Still, Javascript, with proper content markup and use of Canvas and sometimes Video, beats them both.
I like flash better than Silverlight not only because it has much better browser support than silverlight but also its company is not a monopoly
The TLS 1.2 I am guessing will be added to other browser in a while and that would make online banking and shopping more secure
@nobody
“but opera still fails. and it is opera’ plugin architecture to blame. it is too f.. strict and paranoid. many bizzare browsers can run silverlight in 100% with some browser spoofing. lone opera fails. whos fault is it?”
Have you ever heard the expression “Assume makes an ASS out of U and ME?”. It’s quite likely that the reasons for the incompatibility are a lot more complicated than Opera’s “paranoia”. If you are a software writer you should know that, and if not you should spend more time learning and less time trolling.
I accept that the developer environment is free for silverlight but this is just another ploy by MS to steal market share. Like giving away DOS, Win3, etc.. Free MS versions tend to disappear as soon as they have regained total market dominance.
.net is a bloated, monolithic development platform that does not deserve continued support in the age of an open and standards compliant web. This is my opinion, yes, but I have a lot of development experience in the MS world, dating from MFC and before. I’m sorry to disagree but silverlight (an MS technology) supporting .net (another MS technology) is hardly a feature.. but another MS approach to locking users in, or at best making it inconvenient for people to work freely with mixed technologies on their terms (Outlook/Exchange anyone?).
“as for boycoting, yeah.. boycot any webmail because they do not support opera? naaah. it wont happen.”
As usual you are quoting wrong for the purpose of bulstering your weak argument. I never said about boycotting webmail, and in any case, your argument is still weak because only some webmails are problematic in Opera, and most are not.
Sorry – Silverlight gets interesting when it starts looking like it’s something new, interesting and open. Right now it looks like MS answer to Flash because they couldn’t buy the company (their usual trick). Same as Vista/Win7 starts to get interesting when there’s a real reason for moving to it, instead of armtwisting from lack of drivers support for XP and refusal to release DX 10 on it etc etc..