Opera 12 To Bring Ragnarök, GPU Accelerated Graphics
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The latest weekly build of Opera 12 web browser has few significant changes that are worth mentioning.
First of all, it now includes Ragnarök, Opera’s HTML5 parser engine (you can read more about it here), secondly, improved CSS3 gradient support and lastly, support for CSS3 radial gradients.
There is one more thing that is not yet mentioned. Remember when we said that opera:gpu shows a blank screen page? It now brings the following (when running on Windows 7 with ATI Radeon HD 5670 (DirectX 11) graphics card):
However, some Opera 12 build users see something slightly different:
Why one instance displays software while other says DirectX 10 remains to be seen.
However, while Opera is yet to make an official announcement, all signs point that Opera 12 will indeed support GPU accelerated graphics.
[Thanks, Shane Bundy]
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Automatic tab-stacking is the feature I need more.
I see people mentioning this and have not seen it in action (probably forgot to download a snapshot)
What is it?
Is it when tabs do not have room they stack?
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/12/06/extension-improvements-updates-to-core-and-some-other-nice-fixes this may be the one with automatic tab stacking, can anybody confirm ?
Ok thanks
“We have also been looking at ways to make tab stacking even more awesome. For example, links opened in foreground or background from the current tab now open in the same group as the parent tab, or a new group if one doesn’t exist and we use the “Open new tab next to active” perference when deciding the position in the group.”
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Option to disable stacking is the feature I need.
This. At least disable it for locked tabs.
Stop the pinning business all together and let users lock their tabs again as they were once able to.
Very good!! Welcome back Opera!
Alpha is just around the corner
Expect Opera 12 Alpha on October 11.
I’ve been waiting for this day a long, long time. With the release of 11.5 I put Opera down (only temporarily as a way to vent my frustration with them taking so long and making a release based on speed dial), and now it’s time to pick the king back up again.
Welcome back.
One thing I don’t know: Is Opera going to be the first to have a full html5 parser or are the others ahead in this point? can’t find anything about that….
I think Chrome was the first, but I found it a bit buggy in HTML5 parsing.
The first proper one that worked for me was in FF4.
The only one without an HTML5 parser is Safari. IE9 doesn’t either but IE10 dev builds do.
I sure hope that is a pre- alpha shot.
Where is the openness that they promised?
Why is it using DX?
Where is OpenGL?
You are saying that windows is going to have DX and you are going to port it to other platforms via OpenGL.
DX 10 because XP goes up to (artificially) to DX 10 (There was a DX 11 patch for XP if I recall correctly)
Ok Opera. Wow Me!
As far as I know, it will use DirectX or OpenGL in Windows (down to XP) and OpenGL on any other platforms. And of course, there will be a software fallback just in case… If I got my facts right, DX10 won’t be necessary, but Opera will use it (and DX11 renderer) if available.
That screenshot it fake. How do I know? Because I faked to to prove a point that idiots will believe everything they read on the internet….
If you want to fool other idiots:
1. Download the latest Opera snapshot.
2. in your Opera/Styles directory copy opera.css and name it gpu.css
3. open your language file (in Opera/locale/en/en.lng) change the entry: -1001100739=”Software”
Fool lots of idiots….
That is not to say Opera aren’t on the verge of launching their hardware accel, they are clearly (the fact the opera:gpu internal page exists almost certainly suggests this), but nobody has it right now.
Good thing I checked opera:gpu before reading this. So I wasn’t fooled. :)
I did do opera:gpu before posting.
Even if its a CSS hack it doesn’t mean that opera ISNT going to include this into V12.
You are right though. Some people need to check facts before publishing.
I’m guessing you question everything the media holds true.
The media can be deceiving. Fully agree with you on that comment.
Hmm, presumably the first screenshot is from a user who’s graphic card / system settings doesn’t allow HA while the second might be a HA generated and stylized page.
I don’t want to upset everyone but opera:gpu existence and content doesn’t means it’ll get into 12 final. They could be just testing it on the snapshots and internal stuff and all but it’ll be kept as a secret URL for testing on 12.0 while they completely develop HA on Opera and release it later as 12.5…
Well if they do not include it then they will lose what small user base they had.
It is not because it is a needed feature but the promises which they cannot seem to deliver.
Deceiving at it’s best.
They never said they would include it in version 12, so no promises will have been broken. You are the one who’s deceiving people.
I never said they are deceiving users by not including HWA in version 12.
Re-read please.
It might help you
Yes you did, but I’ll play along. Who and how exactly do you believe they are deceiving?
What happens when I win?
Will you donate to my paypal?
Oh, look at you. You can’t even come up with an answer to my question. If you’re going to play the “that’s not what I said game”, you need to have an alternative interpretation that you can argue is what you really said. Since you apparently don’t even have that, it would be less embarrassing for you to just drop it right away.
You are sad.
Maybe read through some forum posts and blogs at Opera before you come crying to me about a foul.
I am not here to do your homework.
Take it or leave it.
Why do you keep replying if you’re only going to skirt the issue? I asked you what you think you said, you’ve had two chances to tell me now so the fact that you haven’t only proves my point. Such a pathetic attempt to save face. Everyone who can read knows exactly what you said, so I’m not even going to start trying to figure out why you think you can change what you said by pointing to things on other blogs. You’re simply a stupid person who cannot admit a mistake.
Why do you keep replying?
IF you think you are right you shouldn’t be swayed by a reply.
You are an idiot. You write something, throw it out the window then write something else.
You mentioned game. I said what would I win? You disregarded that an started to attack me.
Are you always right? Do you bicker like a 2 year old?
Then you are sad.
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You are yet one of those fanboys that are pissed at the company and seem to diss negativity at those whom see the true plight. Frog Man.
I keep replying because the shit your write is too dumb not to be opposed. The only game I’ve mentioned is the one you keep playing; saying “no that’s not what I said” at every turn. You’re not going to get anything because it’s not possible for you to win it. It’s only possible to look more like an idiot with every post you make, until you stop playing it.
Yes, I’m pretty much always right. It balances out by how you are pretty much always wrong.
Seeing by your comments; you pretty much just pick a bone with anyone that oposses you. You defend one product. You claim shit. You are unable to offer a compromise. You will have to do much better than that if you want people to take you seriously.
Thank you for playing
Thank you for the ignorance.
Hit me up next time and we’ll play again. Bye!
Which promises? I mean, hardware acceleration wasn’t promised to be on 12.0.
It is obvious that opera:gpu is under construction. And for the ones shouting that there is no OpenGL backend, then the opera:gpu page is currently a static page showing Vega backend as Software for almost all users. Don’t know how some users managed to get DX 10 as the backed.
Yes, this is a pre-alpha build of Opera.
They did promise DX as well as OGL (which they already have) and they also said they will release it “when it’s ready”.
Hope it’s sooner than later.
“Where is the openness that they promised?”
URL?
“Why is it using DX?”Because that’s what you use on Windows?
Why don’t you find something for yourself.
I got one person agreeing.
I cannot go back through god knowns when to pull some article.
But DX is closed source.
No URL? False claim then.
Windows is closed source. Relevance?
This is a great news, but still Opera needs to implement Drag&Drop support. It is the only browser not supporting this feature and for some reason every time I mention this in some discussion I got deleted :)
just because other browsers support it does not mean Opera needs to. From what I recall it’s not even part of the ratified HTML5 standard…
I don’t think I have ever found a need for it.
I have. I use it all the time in Firefox and Chrome. If Opera had D&D it would be even better.
Opera may be intentionally avoiding implementation of the Drag and Drop API.
Read this passionate rant against it on QuirksMode. If you are sensitive to profuse profanity usage, you may want to install my Opera PageScrubber extension before visiting the page. :)
tried it, it scores 321 on HTML5 test, while firefox 8 scores 314
but firefox displays it better, the score font is smooth, while on all the other browsers ive tried – ie9, opera 12, chrome 16 its not smooth
my conclusion is that firefox is the browser of the highest quality
I must say I recently comared some fonts in Opera and FF by making them both fullscreen and tabbing between the two, and Opera looked better, I have the feeling FF had Problems with the hinting.
But try it out yourself: (I used FF 7.0.1 and Opera 11.51)
http://kai.middleton.de/kiste/?soundschnipselTest
By the way, I desinged the site .)
as i said – things are displayed the best with Firefox on my computer, i just tried that webpage and only firefox displayed the weird space font, all other browsers used times new roman, or something like that
Nope. Fonts definitely work in both FF and Opera. Looks indifferent to me.
In fact, it scores 331 points after you manually switch on WebSocket support here: opera:config#UserPrefs|EnableWebSockets
WebGL + WebSockets = Beating Chrome’s score on the HTML5 Test :D
And if only someone had a powerful machine that could topple Chrome from the top spot on Peacekeeper (just to be replaced by Opera). I’m not a keen fan of Chrome.
If you wait a year I am going to build one when new GPU’s and Ivy bridge come out.
Although I say that all the time.
Actually waiting for Windows 8 to be final
On my PC Chrome is fastest on the new Peacekeeper Beta but Opera rules the Peacekeeper test
http://files.myopera.com/stve10/albums/5142082/Opera12pre%20alpha%20b1042%20with4.252%20overclock%20(Copy)%20(Copy).JPG
My fastest run with Opera is 17625 versus 16557 for Chrome
http://clients.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/results.action?key=6aUM
Just noticed the opera:config info buttons actually work no more try & pray for the moment at least.
Its been working a few builds back.
The help link above it has more content anyway.
The cats out of the bag Hardware acceleration snapshot on Thursday & Opera 12 final with Hardware acceleration by end of the year.
http://www.opera.com/portal/unw/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20118416-264/opera-12-to-get-graphics-hardware-boost/
Will it be just Windows for now ? I will be seriously impressed if Windows XP benefits in the Alpha releases.
Thats a relief. Be sure to submit it to Vygantas.
The snapshot is tomorrow he’ll spot that.
“Everything is accelerated,” said Jan Standal, Opera’s vice president of desktop products, in an interview today at the company’s Up North Web press event here about Opera 12. “The whole user interface.” Specifically, that means hardware acceleration for Cascading Style Sheets transitions and animations, for Canvas 2D drawing, and for text, he said. And Opera 12 gets support for the WebGL 3D graphics technology–also hardware-acclerated.”
Sounds great but expect bugs & lots of graphics cards not supported ?
The register has focused more on the mobile side
I particularly like
“Two versions are available for mobile users: both use Opera’s vast global cloud surfing infrastructure (recently copied by Amazon)”
and
” Most, if not almost all innovations in desktop web browsing over the past decade have been created at Opera – and then shamelessly cloned by copycats: from tabs, to speed dial, to proxy acceleration. What’s new in 12 is less visually dramatic.The bleeding-edge desktop Opera, version 12, includes support for hardware acceleration via WebGL, with Angry Birds one of the games showcased.”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/10/11/opera_browser_new_technologies/
CSS3 gradient support and lastly, support for CSS3 radial gradients.